tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post2205104097840217750..comments2024-03-28T12:29:39.157-07:00Comments on Graphic Firing Table: Wars and LecheryFDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-87289656647106811972011-06-23T12:27:13.855-07:002011-06-23T12:27:13.855-07:00Good point. Even in the song "You Did It!&qu...Good point. Even in the song "You Did It!", Henry must co-opt Eliza's achievements. He cannot bear HER being charming. You're right -- he will always disdain her, and maintain the need to tout his own excellence.<br /><br />Eliza seems to supplicate at the end via her mock reversion ("I washed my face and hands, I did!"), and her "power" is to know how to deftly manoevere around Higgins. As you say, it will be a constant battle to balance her dignity with his ego needs.<br /><br />It is all about him -- HE'S grown accustomed to her face; it will always be a hymn to him.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-13193608996289288072011-06-22T03:49:46.089-07:002011-06-22T03:49:46.089-07:00The interesting thing about that character, Lisa, ...The interesting thing about that character, Lisa, is how much more unsparing the original is. In the Shaw play that the musical is based on Eliza DOES leave, and Higgins realizes only too late that he's "accustomed to her face". But he doesn't change his distasteful, self-involved (and self-satisfied) self.<br /><br />The musical version is "sweeter", in some ways, because Eliza humbles herself. But where I see the fail is trying to imagine them as a couple; in "a year or so" she's either a beaten-down little mouse of a woman or she's a raging fury...because he's not going to stop being a smug, entitled jerk about herself, her origins and her lack of a penic, since obviously no one who comes from the slums, who is a woman, who is not HIM can possibly have anything intelligent to say...<br /><br />I'd like to think that she has the steel to face up to him every time he's a jerk, and that he has the strength to admit that an back off it...but people being people? I dunno...and that seems like a hell of a long, hard slog, beating your man into some sort of reasonable civility day after day.<br /><br />Mind you, her "alternative" (Freddy) is a weak, fatheaded sap. She doesn't really have any good options, other than being by herself. Maybe that's what Shaw is saying - that a woman can choose to be the appendage of a man or her ownself but alone. No "happy ending" there, though, so no wonder the Broadway producers wanted a different ending!FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-16523406260644923912011-06-20T21:25:52.335-07:002011-06-20T21:25:52.335-07:00Yes, and I think this is why the ego-less animal i...Yes, and I think this is why the ego-less animal is so attractive. He meets us directly, and makes no sham of his drives (though I have seen some dogs who rise the level of dissimulation in the service of getting treats, methinks.)<br /><br />So we must aggrandize this id, and the only way is to get bigger, better and more. Quality of communion is not so important, as that cannot be flaunted. In fact, it requires a humility and vulnerability which we disdain. We want power moves and power brokers, and we want to to be the button-pushers.<br /><br />To know someone requires the correlate, and self-knowledge requires a fortitude not all have. (BTB: I was just watching a bit of Harrison as Henry Higgins tonight, and I just love his persona -- so distasteful and self-involved, until he realizes his need for the other.)Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-68859801888844567492011-06-19T10:21:05.626-07:002011-06-19T10:21:05.626-07:00Lisa: Or perhaps not so much ego as id; we've ...Lisa: Or perhaps not so much ego as id; we've become all about the immediate scratching of our simian itches. The notion that we should subsume our sexual gratification into a more complex relationship of ideas, emotions, give-and-take...that's SO last week.<br /><br />Instead, we find ourselves leering at some anonymous fake gahongas in some sleazy joint; it's easier and quicker than finding the time and substance to get to know a REAL woman...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-3306997687051000002011-06-19T08:57:55.801-07:002011-06-19T08:57:55.801-07:00FDC,
Yes -- so silly. Such a waste, if we consid...FDC,<br /><br />Yes -- so silly. Such a waste, if we consider true fraternity to be a good (and I do.)<br /><br />Our society loves rock stars -- the more the merrier. I suspect many of these men (and women) never learned to value a heart connection. Bumping sexual bits, yes, so they bow at the altar of Viagra.<br /><br />Like you say, a good man should age well, like fine wine. If he is smart (and fortunate), he may always have the love of a good woman. Yet such a simple thing seems so rare; people are more likely to commune with their pets than their humans. This may be because one party has loosed its ego.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-44225947056904117272011-06-18T20:02:27.420-07:002011-06-18T20:02:27.420-07:00Lisa: But IMO that just makes it sad. The demogra...Lisa: But IMO that just makes it sad. The demographics suggest that as us Y-chromosome types age we become a valuable commodity; you start outliving us by a significant margin, and if we were smart (which, as we've discussed, we're generally not...) we'd realize that we could practically have a hareem of lovely ladies.<br /><br />But we're obsessed with our self-image as the glossy young studs we still think we are; we are incredible at overlooking our sags, wrinkles, and hairy bits and are fastidious about yours. The savory charm of a grown-up woman can't compete with the taut protuberances of a pair of rent-a-boobs.<br /><br />And so the sad old guys line the rail at the titty bar trying to buy the love of the cynical young things who are despising them..when they could be making actual love with a woman their own age.<br /><br />Stupid. Stupid. But then we are...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-74227362349397908582011-06-18T15:24:19.640-07:002011-06-18T15:24:19.640-07:00Hmmm, my reply to you Chief seems to have disappea...Hmmm, my reply to you Chief seems to have disappeared. I had said that blaming it on "anarchists" lets everyone absolve their "ordinary law-abiding" kids off without some serious reflection. <br /><br />Funnily enough, today's Globe and Mail has an article confirming that some of the identified rioters were middle-class twats with no criminal records. One idiot was an academic star heading to university in the states on a scholarship (which is probably disappearing right now). Original article here: http://tinyurl.com/44sl8m7<br /><br />LeonLeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715768191516712688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-31286384157658603002011-06-18T05:42:26.792-07:002011-06-18T05:42:26.792-07:00FDC: "Looks like drunken hockey yobbos to me,...FDC: "Looks like drunken hockey yobbos to me, but, then, that's me."<br /><br />Isn't that the modern definition of anarchists?Plutonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-24588760089960274672011-06-17T13:14:06.609-07:002011-06-17T13:14:06.609-07:00Leon: I'm kind of fascinted that the Sun and t...Leon: I'm kind of fascinted that the Sun and the B.C. pols seem determined to pin this on "anarchists" when the vast majority of people in the photos are wearing Canucks kit. Looks like drunken hockey yobbos to me, but, then, that's me.<br /><br />And we've seen this everywhere; it's a human thing, not a B.C. thing. Just sad, and stupid.<br /><br />DF: That DOES make it even nastier. Ugh.<br /><br />Lisa: <i>si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait...</i>FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-87252798678570027682011-06-17T12:43:16.519-07:002011-06-17T12:43:16.519-07:00Thank you, Chief.
I shall pose an advice column r...Thank you, Chief.<br /><br />I shall pose an advice column request: <i>What is one to make of a senior citizen who still wants to go to titty bars? Or, is that a large part of the viewing cohort?</i>Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-28768769081657155962011-06-17T12:41:29.713-07:002011-06-17T12:41:29.713-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.rangeragainstwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02126542922536584950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-27988791726856179192011-06-17T12:01:10.849-07:002011-06-17T12:01:10.849-07:007am breasts - that made me chuckle. Authentic morn...7am breasts - that made me chuckle. Authentic morning dress strip show? Could be a new kink! <br /><br />I once had to go to strip club in a professional capacity and got a good look behind the scenes. If the forced sexuality and overpriced drinks didn't put you off then observing the lengths of two-way mirrors with security guards watching everything would.Don Francisconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-89847876327433544332011-06-17T10:39:13.675-07:002011-06-17T10:39:13.675-07:00"most noxious hives of scum and villain"..."most noxious hives of scum and villain"<br /><br />I'm shocked, shocked that Washington DC is no longer the leader in that field. I blame the Democrats for Washington slipping on the scum meter.<br /><br />As a Canuckian (though a Torontonian who cheers for the forever hopeless Maple Leafs) who's seen similar riots following playoff games (see Montreal, repeatedly) the games featured massive gatherings of twenty-something males fueled by lots of alcohol (technically it's "Labatt", no need to capitalize the "b") and probably would have happened even if Vancouver won. Just @sshats looking for an excuse. Hopefully the police track them down and throw a heavy phone book at them.<br /><br />Also, I like the photo. Amidst all that destruction something constructive happening. Cue the <br /><br />LeonLeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715768191516712688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-12596896351159427592011-06-17T08:44:51.296-07:002011-06-17T08:44:51.296-07:00Pluto: Nope, it's 0700. Good time for PT, or c...Pluto: Nope, it's 0700. Good time for PT, or coffee. For staring at some employee's bolt-ons? Not so much. For me, anyway.<br /><br />Upon further reflection, I think the thing that makes it so skeevy for me about the idea of strip club morning hours is the atmosphere of forced sexuality in these places. The women work their ass off trying to manufacture this faux...hotness (for lack of a better word)...to mulct more jack out of you. I have a hard time eating in these places (and some of them actually DO serve some decent food) because you're stuffing your haggis-trap whilst some barely-dressed siren is staring at you with these hoked-up bedroom eyes.<br /><br />Yike!<br /><br />What would be kind of funny, and what might work (for me, anyway), is if the girls were to accept it as "morning" and just schlump around with their bathrobes open, or instead of stripper heels and lingerie, come sit at your table dressed in a T-shirt and fluffy slippers with their hair all frowzy, no makeup, and a cup of coffee. You could make the T-shirt see-through if you wanted to, to keep the while idea of "strip club" going.<br /><br />And they could make the sort of half-awake conversation you have mornings, and scratch their backsides, and yawn.<br /><br />It'd be funny and sorta-sexy, but in an appropriately morning way.<br /><br /><br /><br />Nah. <br /><br />The whole strip club thing just doesn't work for me. And especially not before noon.FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-14728012184039995272011-06-17T04:33:02.055-07:002011-06-17T04:33:02.055-07:00"Open at 7"
Hopefully they mean 7:00 PM..."Open at 7"<br /><br />Hopefully they mean 7:00 PM? Nothing else makes any sense to me. I can't imagine that the number of customers would make it worth the expense to be open that early. <br /><br />For starters the women on display would probably want extra cash to be up that early.Plutonoreply@blogger.com