tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post5046179541366209986..comments2024-03-29T05:41:35.119-07:00Comments on Graphic Firing Table: Sheik YerbootieFDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-23306052552606387882012-03-12T09:59:01.040-07:002012-03-12T09:59:01.040-07:00Per your final comment:
It IS odd that the very p...Per your final comment:<br /><br />It IS odd that the very people who are most conscious of reining in their procreative capacity will do what it takes to stay responsible. while the "browns and blacks" who compose most of our lovely earth will keep on doing what they do, without heed.<br /><br />Yeah -- you'd think if they wanted to maintain a "standard" of productivity, they'd be four-square behind contraception.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-66223638059906913392012-03-10T09:21:49.038-07:002012-03-10T09:21:49.038-07:00Lisa: Just finished - see yesterday's post...Lisa: Just finished - see yesterday's post...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-81735983205723468182012-03-09T22:32:37.350-07:002012-03-09T22:32:37.350-07:00We have a very strange attitude towards sex; revil...<i>We have a very strange attitude towards sex; reviling it while exalting it and all the while holding it to some fairly ridiculous standards, and I think that merits some discussion...</i><br /><br />I agree!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-85875182014530517062012-03-09T22:08:23.163-07:002012-03-09T22:08:23.163-07:00Chief:
You are not thinking of the big picture. ...Chief:<br /><br />You are not thinking of the big picture. <br /><br />Population pressure is the basic energy source for social engineers, just like steam pressure is a basic source of power for mechanical engineers.<br /><br />The farmer doesn't let his cows decide when they should get pregnant. (in fact, he would be "crazy" to do so).<br /><br />Why would you expect anything different from the oligarchs.<br /><br />A lot of things, which seem "crazy", make a whole lot more sense if you simply assume that the political classes don't consider their supporters to be peer human beings.Aelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788190394672505925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-67526248518446864462012-03-09T11:39:24.093-07:002012-03-09T11:39:24.093-07:00Lisa: I must not be reading the right white papers...Lisa: I must not be reading the right white papers or something. It just seems completely whack, to me, to somehow try and deny what seems like a simple, sensible product of modern scientific civilization as a solution to an old problem (having a kid show up as the result of a moment's passion).<br /><br />The idea that you can either 1) prevent the passion from running it's course, or 2) force ONE of the impassioned pair - since there's nothing holding him in place other than his fundamental decency, and people being people that's a pretty thin reed - to spend the next 20 years rearing a child, well, that's the part of the "argument" that leaves me utterly dumbstruck. What fecking idiot would want that?<br /><br />And - and this is the subject of my next post - part of our problem is that we've (at the same time) almost divorced love and sex while binding them together in a mental chokehold. We have a very strange attitude towards sex; reviling it while exalting it and all the while holding it to some fairly ridiculous standards, and I think that merits some discussion...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-31295018044343450712012-03-08T22:34:09.579-07:002012-03-08T22:34:09.579-07:00You lay out the terrible situation exceedingly wel...You lay out the terrible situation exceedingly well (as always). My word for the night: "swive".<br /><br />As Big Daddy suggests, the impulse seems a yearning for a simpler time. If woman can just keep the aspirin between her knees, all manner of ills will retreat to their hiding places, too. If the wicked wench can't, well, there's always the iron Maiden ...<br /><br />It surely is a projection of male fear onto the outsized threat posed by voracious female desire. (And a vain hope in the very creation of that lusty desire which doesn't quite jibe with the reality most of them face apres marriage.)<br /><br />If women can have sex without fear of pregnancy, they then control their lives as men do. I can't even conceive of not having access to birth control. That would render women imprisoned by their physiology. When I think that some people wish to deny women access to that protection I feel the weight of misogyny which persists.<br /><br />IMO, atavism makes no sense as a political platform, unless you're pandering to the KKK crowd. Leon suggests the wingnuts are out in force; in my neck of the woods, I had always presumed I was seeing a particularly insular mindset.<br /><br />But going by election results, it seems 50%+ of us must be just whacked. <br /><br />p.s. -- thank you, Chief, for holding up the impulse to decency in our sexual congress. It is amazing how spectacularly people manage to flub up what should be a really straightforward interaction.<br /><br />Tangential: I came across this quotation (attributed to Harriet van Horne & Julia Child, but I'd bet on the former): <i>Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all.</i><br /><br />Of course, love and sex may be different things . . .Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-88217860189902030022012-03-08T17:21:37.411-07:002012-03-08T17:21:37.411-07:00The thing that gets me - as I kept coming back to ...The thing that gets me - as I kept coming back to in the post - is the crazy of it all.<br /><br />Sexual intercourse is one of the great constants in human existence; from puberty to senility, at one time or another, we want it, crave it, try and get it, do things ranging from sweet, cute, and silly to dangerously, utterly destructively nut to have it with partners ranging from dearly beloveds to complete strangers.<br /><br />Great empires have risen or fallen because of it, marriages have thrived or exploded, treaties have been broken and so has furniture.<br /><br />So trying to keep human beings from rubbing their reproductive parts together is like trying to shovel water.<br /><br />SO...the one thing you CAN do is to make as sure as you can that these horny buggers aren't going around making babies. For sure as the sun rises, a hell of a lot of that sexytime involves people who should no more be trusted with a kiddo than they should be allowed to saute' a live grenade.<br /><br />The GOP used to be all about abortions; abortion was a crime, abortion was a sin, any woman who had an abortion was an Evil Murderess.<br /><br />With that line you'd think that the GOP would be all OVER contraception. You'd think they'd be practically handing out the damn pills with Romney fliers.<br /><br />So my conclusion is roughly the same as Big Daddy's; that this isn't really about abortion OR birth control, but a deep-seated horror that women (since you notice that nobody is going all freaky telling the boys to wrap up that rascal before launching the pink torpedo...) are fucking, and fucking without the Blessing of The Man...<br /><br />And...as you both point out; the entire "force-the-damn-broads-to-shut-their-legs" program is doomed to fail because people are people and people; good girls, bad girls, good boys, and bad boys, well all just like to rub our babymaking parts together. Anyone whose "plan" depends on changing that is a complete and utter moron...<br /><br />Or a Republican...<br /><br />But I repeat myself.FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-14638043724530293682012-03-08T13:32:35.687-07:002012-03-08T13:32:35.687-07:00Ah Chief, the GOP is merely the symptom - not the ...Ah Chief, the GOP is merely the symptom - not the problem. There is a huge swath of people in your fine country that are, for lack of a better word, batshit insane. Get rid of the GOP and they'll support whatever new nutbar anti-woman/foreigner/democrat party that springs up. These are the people who still insist on abstinence education (Utah recently passing abstinence only law) despite evidence showing it's less effective than talking about condoms. People who support creationism museums. <br /><br />And as always, it's the people who scream the loudest about something usually have some dark secret with it. Anti-gay Repubs and religious types are constantly getting caught with their totem pole in the wrong type of donut hole (danish?). I can only surmise that this lot either can't get any horizontal tango at all or are into some kinky shit that would make Bob Guccione flinch.Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715768191516712688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-19486735483178125592012-03-08T10:07:03.762-07:002012-03-08T10:07:03.762-07:00I would guess that the anti nookie brigade are dri...I would guess that the anti nookie brigade are driven by the idea that The Pill heralded the downfall of civilization and want to bring back the threat of pregnancy and Magdalene laundries to keep women in line. Personally I think that is about as sensible as phlogistion, but I've only voted Republican once in my life. <br />To me one of the strangest things is how much the Republicans venerate Reagan, when they are so far to the right of Reagan. Just consider Jim Webb, who went from Secretary of the Navy under Reagan in 1987 to Democratic Senator in 2007.Big Daddynoreply@blogger.com