tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post7343158372061198739..comments2024-03-28T12:29:39.157-07:00Comments on Graphic Firing Table: Lies that Won't Fly, or, Wingnut DefiladeFDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-13594910539865023732012-02-11T09:18:59.577-07:002012-02-11T09:18:59.577-07:00Ael: On the question of "bigamy"...
I&#...Ael: On the question of "bigamy"...<br /><br />I've never been impressed with the arguments for a role for religious doctrine in public policy. IMO the state's only business in personal relationships is to ensure that 1) they are entered into only by consenting adults and 2) where they involve legal contracts, such as the care of children and things like debt.<br /><br />So, frankly, why NOT bigamy? Why NOT incest? You want to marry your sisters - or BOTH your twin sisters - what possible LEGAL argument can I defend?<br /><br />Assuming that all three of you are of legal age, and of sufficient mental capacity to make an informed decision, why should my sqwickiness regarding your choice be a negating factor, or a factor at all?<br /><br />The bottom line is that monogamy is the rule in many societies, suggesting that human beings will tend to pair-bond, and the prohibitions against incest in most societies will ensure that incest remains extremely rare. But why should the Christian "rule" of heterosexual monogamy trump the Polynesian "rule" of polygamy, or the Greek tradition of homosexual monogamy, in civil law?<br /><br />I'm very convinced that if we could get around the social prejudices surrounding these things we'd find that civil society wouldn't fall apart because the family down the block consists of two moms and three dads, any more than because it consists of two moms or two dads.<br /><br />Enshrining emotional or religious prejudice into law doesn't make it better law...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-30551755390651947292012-02-11T08:50:05.990-07:002012-02-11T08:50:05.990-07:00Ael: The law legislates best that legislates least...Ael: The law legislates best that legislates least, so the answer would be that it would and that would be the reason not to pass such a law. <br /><br />In this case, however, it's the other way around. The law says "You have to offer bacon AND non-bacon sandwiches in your lunchroom, or you DON'T get the tax break. You can choose to ONLY offer bacon to your Jewish employees, but then no sweet, sweet tax breaks for you!"<br /><br />Lisa: Indeed. And I have more to say on this subject of the ridiculous "sensitivity" of the U.S. governing classes to "religious freedom".FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-64230797188185306562012-02-10T22:57:04.054-07:002012-02-10T22:57:04.054-07:00Interesting that you discuss truth 1 hr + 1 min af...Interesting that you discuss truth 1 hr + 1 min after RAW did.<br /><br />Questions of truth have been flying fast and furious around here. Seems like something's afoot.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08839236994990699117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-56865956877014230912012-02-10T22:34:30.717-07:002012-02-10T22:34:30.717-07:00Yes, Canada is surviving the onslaught of gay marr...Yes, Canada is surviving the onslaught of gay marriage without visible harmful effect.<br /><br />It has lead, however, to a supreme court challenge over bigamy. After all, if the male-female thing is open to contention, why should the number two be a fixed limit. Arguments have been heard and we are awaiting a ruling.<br /><br />In the U.S.A. can the government pass a law that says "You get a $100 tax credit if you come down to the local IRA office and publicly eat a bacon sandwich" Would that not fall afoul of anti-discrimination laws?Aelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788190394672505925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-31094818772966223332012-02-10T22:16:50.242-07:002012-02-10T22:16:50.242-07:00Indeed he did, Leon. And I used to get sick when ...Indeed he did, Leon. And I used to get sick when I heard that sort of news. Now I just sigh.<br /><br />I really wonder. I think we may have to travel a way down the road towards a place where ignorant fundies and wingnuts clash by night. I still have a hope - a dim hope, but a hope - that once we've peered into that abyss we'll want our souls back. But that's when we'll know, won't we?<br /><br />I read today that something like 50-60% of the U.S. public is in favor of war with Iran if they are "suspected" of trying to go nuclear.<br /><br />The depth of foolery in our fools is profound, indeed. And we have so many, many fools...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-76889430837332568472012-02-10T18:34:19.675-07:002012-02-10T18:34:19.675-07:00And didn't Obama immediately back down?
Regar...And didn't Obama immediately back down?<br /><br />Regarding the whole wing-nut fundies, I recently saw an image through Reddit that pointed out Canada's had gay marriage for 7yrs and we haven't sunk into the sea, there's no heavenly fire from an angry zombie jew, straight people continue to marry (and get divorced) and no one's tried to marry a poodle.<br /><br />Yay us.Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715768191516712688noreply@blogger.com