tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post2616089676661718493..comments2024-03-29T05:41:35.119-07:00Comments on Graphic Firing Table: Half FOX and half freeFDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-3050941893974890332017-04-11T13:27:25.222-07:002017-04-11T13:27:25.222-07:00Well, it's supposed to be a popular republic. ...Well, it's supposed to be a popular republic. If you choose not to try and change what you don't like you kinda give up the right to complain. The oligarchs are perfectly happy to asswhip people like your CNA whether or not they fight back. And if she hates the "establishment" so bad why not turn out for Sanders?<br /><br />No question things are fucked up for non-plutocrats now. But how much worse than back in the original Gilded Age? We the People fought our way out of that. Are we so much less now than they were then..?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-83239647650679885812017-04-11T08:11:27.846-07:002017-04-11T08:11:27.846-07:00The Lame-O "Day Late and Dollar Short" P...The Lame-O "Day Late and Dollar Short" Party . . . <br /><br />http://digbysblog.blogspot.in/2017/04/no-dread-tuesdays-by-bloggersrus.html<br /><br /><br />bbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-35523921001905581402017-04-11T08:03:06.762-07:002017-04-11T08:03:06.762-07:00The results aren't in yet, and if they're ...The results aren't in yet, and if they're shown to be all negative in future elections, can't give up.<br />It might help too, if the Democrats put up candidates who aren't the usual corporate speech-giving stooges.<br />But it's election day down south of me in Wichita, so let's roll the dice and see what tumbles out. We had Lyin' Ted Cruz up and the NRCC dump money and that ad to boost the no-show-at-debates republican, but no major Democratic money or person of substance stop by for Thompson.<br />The only liberal of note that might've created a stir IMO is Bernie. No one wants to walk around Kansas with a big national Democratic banner.<br />I asked one of the barely-above-minimum-wage CNAs that works where the wife is if she planned to vote. Her no response was very forceful, and actually shocked me. She also did not know who was running or the race.<br />I know what you are likely to say about that, but that's the state of the disconnected voter here, at times a real hatred or disgust with our country's government. Why half of us or fewer do not vote, why just a quarter of us plus change decides national and local elections.<br />No way to run a country, I think.<br /><br /><br />bbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-12128264833301858422017-04-10T09:44:36.482-07:002017-04-10T09:44:36.482-07:00Here's the thing, tho, basil; Bernie's tow...Here's the thing, tho, basil; Bernie's townhalls? He tried talking economic and political sense to the Trumpkins, got a bunch of nonsense in return, and left it at that. The Trumpkins never bought in or abandoned the Dark Side.<br /><br />Same problem the social democrats in Europe are finding; economic populism is no match for xenophobia, racism, and authoritarianism.FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-46764130871727638702017-04-08T01:29:45.566-07:002017-04-08T01:29:45.566-07:00Ron Estes' ad running against Democrat ( brave...Ron Estes' ad running against Democrat ( brave fellow BTW, a lawyer and military vet, fantastic candidate ), with statement by scumbag that he has no control over ad but stands by it at the end. Mike Pompeo's former Congressional seat. <br /><br />http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Campaign-commercial-causing-controversy-418707563.html<br /><br />The election is next Tuesday, if you care to follow up.<br /><br />bbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-47495412549824726522017-04-08T00:45:07.832-07:002017-04-08T00:45:07.832-07:00Anonymous wrote:
>>There is however a much l...Anonymous wrote:<br />>>There is however a much larger bloc we do need to reach if we want to start winning elections, and that's the 40% of eligible voters who choose to sit out the process because they don't trust either side. Those people when polled show a marked preference for progressive policies, but have no faith in the Democratic Party's ability to deliver, and to do it in an honest manner. The corruption of many state Democratic parties is a real barrier for those folks, as is the continued reliance on corporate funding at the national level<<<br /><br />Fully agree with this. There is no compromise with the far-right Banzai Suicide Squad and with the Center-Right folks you will get some success in bringing them over to a more liberal point of view, but nothing to bank on. I live in Kansas, the Land of Brownback, the most unpopular governor in the US. That unpopularity gave him the maximum of 2 4-year stints in Topeka. Our moderate and occasional liberal candidates compromise right from the start and generally run as Republican because the Liberal Democrats support abortion doctors who everyday auger out healthy cute children right out of their addled mothers' wombs by the grain-truckload. A few years ago, the opposition candidate who ran against Sen. Pat Roberts compromised so much that he ran as "neither party" and got his ass handed back to him, nicely fricasseed on a sizzling skillet.<br />Many statehouse seats here are unopposed at election time, because any possible Democrat loves to shove Obamacare, and gay rights and illegal immigrant drug pushers and jihadists down poor Republican Granny's throat and install Sharia law into every God-fearing church, because Obama is Muslim and hates Christians and will take our God-given guns away.<br />I don't see Kansas as that much different from the Gulf Coast States and their immediate neighbors who've been for the most part solidly red for decades. We have made some progress in the state House and Senate this past November, but not enough to over-ride Brownback's veto of a Medicaid Expansion bill brought up by the legislature. Mostly due to the 4 X 4 knock to the electorate's heads by nursing home and hospital closings and talk of school district and county consolidation. Much of the fabled small town America would disappear in Kansas if much more of that happens.<br />Sen. Sanders is doing the right thing, in going out to Wisconsin and W. Virginia to talk to people about their problems and what government can and should do for them, local, state and national.<br /><br />bb Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-25651769422057509912017-04-07T07:55:01.181-07:002017-04-07T07:55:01.181-07:00Kalin: Here's the problem with your suggestion...Kalin: Here's the problem with your suggestion;<br /><br />We already DID that and look where it got us.<br /><br />Specifically, the original New Deal was crafted to appease the crackers. It made damn sure that none of that lovely government got handed to the browns and blacks, too. So we ended up fighting that fight through the Fifties and Sixties and ended up losing the crackers; they went to the GOP after the Civil Rights Acts and have been there ever since.<br /><br />And I'm not talking about the Imperial Kleagles, either. I'm talking about the sweet kindly white people who are just a little...uncomfortable...with the idea that they need to consider themselves the "equals" of some dusky savage.<br /><br />Look at what happened with "jobs" and "freedom". So long as the unions offered jobs for other white folks all us nice white folks were jake with that. So long as the freedoms didn't include the freedom of your daughter to date that big black buck us white folks were perfectly good with them.<br /><br />but...when they DID...<br /><br />Ouch.<br /><br />So as VCarlson points out; this isn't an "either-or" deal. You - as in "you nice white conservative people" - gotta take the whole cake, not just the frosting. You want nice things? You gotta accept that those scary queers are gonna want to get married, when they do they're gonna want a wedding cake, and if you're in the wedding cake biz you're gonna have to smile and bake it for 'em just like a het couple because the law says that they have the same rights.<br /><br />Like I said; us lefties have compromised our asses off. If I had my way every damn church and mosque and synagogue in this country would be taxed. The top marginal rate would be something like 95%. You'd get to own a bolt-action rifle or a pump-action shotgun and you'd have to pass MY goddamn handgun "safety and responsibility" class to even get a sniff at a handgun. And so on and so on.<br /><br />I'm not going to get that, I know it, I've "compromised" with it, and moved on.<br /><br />But some baselines remain, and one of those is that the ladyboys get to ladyboy so long as their ladyboy fist doesn't come in contact with your homophobic nose. You get squicked out? <i>Xin loi, GI</i> She doesn't have to deal with your fears - YOU do. Pull up your homphobic Big Boy panties and get over it.FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-89383308880431476072017-04-06T23:16:11.326-07:002017-04-06T23:16:11.326-07:00I have a small problem with what you just said, be...I have a small problem with what you just said, because it sounded like you were saying to women/people of color/LGBT* that we should just step back with our little problems snd wait until the *real* problems are solved. Because what actually happens is the real problems never get solved, or if they do, they are replaced with even worse problems that also must be solved first. IOW, the same old same old. <br /><br />In my view, the basic problem is that far too many people have been defined as "not really people" by the people with the power, who in this time and place are mostly straight white christian men. With money, of course.<br /><br />If that is not what you meant, I'm here to tell you that's what it sounded like.VCarlsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-92183176552942185922017-04-06T21:33:47.816-07:002017-04-06T21:33:47.816-07:00Bingo. Stop running on a platform of rights of Ca...Bingo. Stop running on a platform of rights of Cambodian lady boys using the can with their teenage daughters. Run on jobs. Run on freedom. Run on relatable issues. THEN ... Let the Cambodian lady boys use the can with their teenage daughters. It won't seem like as big a deal if they have jobs ...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11200206806390208227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-56736068766221208132017-04-06T15:48:26.937-07:002017-04-06T15:48:26.937-07:00A valid observation (even if it coincides with me ...A valid observation (even if it coincides with me mine!) However, I am attempting to be more "reasonable" when there's any common ground. Unfortunately, these assholes are still unwilling to concede anything.bigmeannursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06651491782773119479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-7734860836982245272017-04-06T10:41:12.905-07:002017-04-06T10:41:12.905-07:00I follow Jim Wright also and would like to follow ...I follow Jim Wright also and would like to follow you as well, but I don't see where to sign up.Linda Pacheconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-8427824492780874252017-04-06T10:35:50.852-07:002017-04-06T10:35:50.852-07:00Again...the Left not only HAS compromised on issue...Again...the Left not only HAS compromised on issues all over the map, but we've shouted those compromises at the top of our voices. Short of ginning up a liberal equivalent of the Wingnut Noise Machine...is that what everybody here is recommending? Not sure how you get those "moderate Republicans" to believe or even watch that; it's not FOX, y'know...<br /><br />The whole point is that a lot of these people are working off irrational fears. And the definition of an IRrational fear is...you can't reason with it.<br /><br />I'm just an old artillery sergeant. I'm not interested in abstractly ideal concepts. I want a practical op order that shows me how I can accomplish the mission. But the mission here seems to be "get people who hate and fear me for irrationally senseless reasons to listen to sense and reason". How the hell do you write an execution paragraph to do that?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-15664980843644071902017-04-06T10:21:38.046-07:002017-04-06T10:21:38.046-07:00If you don't garner the votes of those voting ...If you don't garner the votes of those voting against their own interests out of fear, you don't win elections. Plain and simple. You can't garner their votes if you can't convince them their fears are unwarranted. This is all about communication. If you aren't interested in that, then enjoy the continued loss of political ground throughout this country and its various levels of government. I want our progressive ideals to be championed in a strategic manner. We need more than just our principles, though it seems we agree on those, we need effective campaigns that achieve the implementation of those principles into policy.SDKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474802305235249777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-51539248547667362042017-04-06T10:19:34.999-07:002017-04-06T10:19:34.999-07:00I found this blog from Jim Wrights blog today. I c...I found this blog from Jim Wrights blog today. I can see I have a lot of catching up to do. Got to respect a fellow FDC chief after all. <br /><br />I think if you re-read Jims blog you'll see what he is saying isn't to compromise for the sake of doing so, in fact he clearly says you do not (in caps yet) compromise, at least not with the KKKretins etc but you look for the rational ones, the one who regret their vote ( and they exist) . I also follow Nic Kristoff at the NYT, he's got a lot of hate mail for saying talk to the Trump voters, don't demonize them all for the sake of doing so. He makes more sense than all the comments opposing him combined. Sadly he just proves that a lot of Anti-Trumpers are just as closed minded and obstinate as those who unflinchingly support the tangerine toddler ( hope you don't mind but I like that phrase and will use it, sparling but appropriately). There are some hard headed people out there, no one likes to admit they made a mistake, no matter how obvious or bad the damage. Belittling or demonizing Trump voters just ensures they'll build their fortress and not even listen to you. You'll reenforce their preceptions and you'll continue to lose elections you should have won in a land slide. raddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13637927566035730323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-80146365477949037082017-04-06T10:15:28.154-07:002017-04-06T10:15:28.154-07:00Wow. I don't think I've ever gotten this ...Wow. I don't think I've ever gotten this many comments. I'm kinda gobsmacked.<br /><br />Look. Here's the thing. I'm not sure where the single-payer, massively-unionized, 90%-top-marginal-rate, ironclad-race-and-gender-equal U.S. that all the "uncompromising lefties" have built around us is but I'd love to see it.<br /><br />In the real U.S. conservatives have about 95% of their dreamland. We're a "center-right" nation, right? That's what I keep hearing. We're fighting not over Universal Basic Income but over poor sick people having to work to "earn" medical care.<br /><br />So...my point is the Left HAS compromised like sonsofbitches. Not sure what more Jim thinks we can give on. And all those nice, reasonable Republicans are...where?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-626097239233069172017-04-06T10:14:13.052-07:002017-04-06T10:14:13.052-07:00SDK: No. I've been reading Stonekettle Station...SDK: No. I've been reading Stonekettle Station for years. I read all three of the articles you're referencing. I completely understand Jim's argument. I just disagree with it; I think he's proceeding from some faulty assumptions and wound up somewhere entirely off-base. And frankly, I'm tired of being told that, as a liberal, the responsibility to compromise, understand, and sympathize is entirely on me, when liberals have in fact been doing all those things for decades and been rewarded with President Trump and full Republican control of the federal government for our efforts.<br /><br />Sometimes people aren't misunderstanding your argument, they just straight-up think you're wrong. I agree with 95% of what Jim writes, but I think he's wrong on this one.Larissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00960881099658298310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-63189561305857922872017-04-06T10:02:03.628-07:002017-04-06T10:02:03.628-07:00And you completely missed MY point, which is that ...And you completely missed MY point, which is that "we" have ALREADY compromised like a motherfucker and have put that compromise out front and have gotten exactly two responses from all these poor economically anxious republicans; jack and shit.<br /><br />The Left hasn't been hiding all this compromising. The Right can go find it with a ten second Google search or a glance at the CNN webpage.<br /><br />Let me know the next time you read some Breitbart piece about how that Obama guy was really kinda right on trade/taxes/health care...<br /><br />We've been compromising right up to the narrow edge of our bedrock principles. That should be more than enough to peel these supposed moderates Jim talks about. Tell me...how's that workin'?FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-24955188436157041022017-04-06T09:35:08.134-07:002017-04-06T09:35:08.134-07:00 Great comments all around. Busy getting involve... Great comments all around. Busy getting involved at every level, with extra attention to the ones closest to home. Thinking less about emigrating every day!toothgrislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16888174643363593837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-3503768991084984732017-04-06T05:45:08.249-07:002017-04-06T05:45:08.249-07:00I'm yet another one who found you through Jim ...I'm yet another one who found you through Jim Wright, and I think you both raise valid points, but miss the mark. I am not convinced of the value of attempts to compromise and assuage the fears of even the supposed moderates in the current Republican voting bloc. We have seen with the ACA what that got us. We gave in to their fears of "socialized medicine" and ended up with something no one on either side is happy with, and that's just empowered the far right as the champions of repeal. There is however a much larger bloc we do need to reach if we want to start winning elections, and that's the 40% of eligible voters who choose to sit out the process because they don't trust either side. Those people when polled show a marked preference for progressive policies, but have no faith in the Democratic Party's ability to deliver, and to do it in an honest manner. The corruption of many state Democratic parties is a real barrier for those folks, as is the continued reliance on corporate funding at the national level. These are the people we need to "compromise" with, and it shouldn't really be that painful, since it's not policy they want the D's to move toward them on, it's ethics. We need to take back control of our party from the Chuck Schumers and Nancy Pelosis and start electing honest representatives of the interests of the working and middle class and EARN the trust of those who are currently convinced (with good reason) that neither party cares about their issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-34222137518356770162017-04-06T05:03:44.356-07:002017-04-06T05:03:44.356-07:00I clicked the "Post a Comment" link and ...I clicked the "Post a Comment" link and I'm sitting here staring, my thoughts unable to coalesce. I <b>feel</b> overwhelmed.<br /><br />SDK and that "negotiate not compromise" person (both commenters above) make the most sense to me.<br /><br />To me it's like the people of the U.S. (I'm Canadian) have a giant collective case of PTSD. You had a good time after 1945. Things <b>felt</b> pretty damn good up until the traumas really started: McCarthyism, Sputnik, Bay of Pigs, Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy's assassination, the civil rights movement and Johnson's moves to desegregate, MLK's assassination, Bobby Kennedy's assassination, Cold War, Vietnam, the national fuel shortage crisis, free-trade-inspired exodus of decent jobs, all the way up to 9/11 and now (WTF HAVE WE DONE!?!) Trump. (I'm sure you can add to the list but you get my drift.)<br /><br />Maybe Trump <i>will</i> end up making America great again because he's become a mythic symbol at the end of the long road of gerrymandering, and money-induced oligarchic allegiances, and lobbying, and all manner of dirty tricks like voter suppression, and so on. His election has fired up ordinary people on both sides. His presence has poured fuel on outrage everywhere, again, on both sides - different outrages, but outrages. <br /><br />Trump's ugliness and incompetence and what he represents will turn those centrist Republicans who are moderate and wise enough to see him for what he is. <br /><br />I'm not so sure you have to work that hard at compromise or negotiation. The heavy lifting is already being done by the fear and seething anger over what people now see they are losing as President Trump guts the Federal government with his unthinking, uncaring, unfeeling sickle, and the GOP (with Trump's support) mold government into nothing more than a giant money sucking machine transferring lower and middle class tax dollars to the parasitic wealthy, bankers, and corporations including the military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned you about a long time ago.<br /><br />If you, you in particular, don't have sufficient irresistible force of persuasion to bring on board the immovable objects on the right, fa-get-abat-em. That obviously isn't your place on the tug-o-war rope.<br /><br />Spend your time finding local, State, and Legislative Branch candidates and getting your butt AFK! working for them. Make sure their platform includes getting the money out of elections (Sanders has shown it can be done), undoing gerrymandering, strengthening the voting rights laws.<br /><br />I read somewhere recently that the Koch bros are pressing red States to move to open up the Constitution for amendments.<br /><br />THAT! That right there (as Jim likes to say) scares the ever-loving crap out of me.<br /><br />Think it unlikely or impossible?<br /><br />Did you think Trump unlikely or impossible?MikeTheFidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272122700339684473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-54016699387115926572017-04-06T03:19:39.309-07:002017-04-06T03:19:39.309-07:00Exactly. Exactly. 0nehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14302849895961640213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-40052656985281956142017-04-06T03:05:30.178-07:002017-04-06T03:05:30.178-07:00Sorry Stephan, but as one of the far left I am not...Sorry Stephan, but as one of the far left I am not interested in sitting down and shutting up. I am a transgender woman that is sick of being sold out by moderates Jennyelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14766608728091282513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-53157267874860460332017-04-06T00:52:45.835-07:002017-04-06T00:52:45.835-07:00Well unless you and the people who agree with you ...Well unless you and the people who agree with you are a) planning civil war<br />or b) just going to give up<br />You are going to have to persuade <i>some</i> people on the Republican side to change their vote. Unpalatable as that might be, reaching out to some of them is an essential part of that process.<br />Sure throwing insults feels good and both sides are guilty of it but it's counter-productive.<br /> <br />I think you missed the point of Jim's essay, and I'm fairly sure you might miss mine. Neither of us is saying you have to compromise with Neo-Nazis or extremists, you can't compromise with them, we know that would never work. <br />However, there are moderate people out there who want pretty much the same things you do (decent schools, hospitals, roads etc.) but who voted Republican. If you can reach them, find that common ground and deal with their fears and objections rationally and calmly, then you might change the way they see you and what you represent. If you can do that, then next election you can effect real change.<br /> <br />Alternatively, you can continue down the admittedly feel-good path of 'No compromises and No Surrender!', entrenching those moderates you might have otherwise have reached, confirming their fears and enabling the present administration to continue and possibly even win a second term.<br />Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228190201191593901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-16283544917044915262017-04-06T00:06:27.460-07:002017-04-06T00:06:27.460-07:00I like Jim's take on things except for the com...I like Jim's take on things except for the compromise thingy. Down here in Texas we don't compromise with water moccasins or rattlesnakes. Now I'm not one for pointing fingers too much, but we are now at the beginning of April and things have not gotten much better in and around the White House. For the most part those that are left on my "Friend's" list that were Trump supporters are still Trump supporters. In fact they seemed to become more entrenched in their support of him each and every day. They are the exact people he cited when he said he could shoot someone in New York and they would still back him. I see those people as just a little tetched. Sort of like the dog that starts foaming at the mouth. You just can't bring either one of those back from the brink. I've found that you can't reason with an unreasonable person any more than you can rollerskate in a buffalo herd. You're going to lose every time. As to the destruction of our democracy well isn't that special. Anyone that studies Bannon knows that is exactly what he wants. The ouster from the NSA is all smoke and mirrors. Apparently not too many people have ever been around the sideshows at a carnival. Those games have one intention - to beat you and take your money. Not with a club, but ny outwitting the 'smart people'. Bannon studied Lenin and a few others whose only intention was destruction of the state. Now SCROTUS is implementing those plans by edict. He's cut the budget for the State Department while increasing the one for the military. He took out seasoned diplomats who might have been useful to Tillerson who knows absolutely nothing, nada, zilch, and even less than that about diplomatic relationships. Gosh, could SCROTUS be preparing us for something?? Could he be pushing us toward something?? And yes there are the locksteppers that want this beautiful experiment to plunge smooth over a cliff. They would rather destroy it than let anything 'different' survive. Part is for the sake of greed. Part is for the sake of their own imagined supremacy. Part is just cause. The rest of us if we remain complacent will reap the aftermath of a whirlwind, but more like the swirling down into a cesspool. Compromise? Never. Understand they were had? Yes. Hope for the best, but always prepare for the worst. My Great Depression and WWII grandparents taught me at least that. They also taught me to be wary of traveling snake oil salesmen. They're slick. They'll tell you what you want to hear not what you need to hear. Then they won't follow through on a dadgum thing. Sounds like SCROTUS to me. [SCROTUS - So-Called Ruler of the United States].Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724796243140747777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-77074415598714409972017-04-05T22:07:45.293-07:002017-04-05T22:07:45.293-07:00Well GFT, you sure know how to pee in the cornflak...Well GFT, you sure know how to pee in the cornflakes. At least Jim Wright holds out a tiny bit of hope in this otherwise hopeless dystopian wasteland we call home. I sure as hell wish I didn't find myself nodding my head at every other sentence you wrote. Where it all ends, I don't know, but I don't see it ending well. <br /><br />I guess we really did make god in our own image, after all. It will be harvest time soon, and time to go reap the whirlwind. If I"m wrong, I'll treat Jim to a bottle of his favorite Scotch and match him shot for shot in celebration. Never did care for the taste of Scotch myself. Might as well drink gasoline. But I'll drink it with a smile on my face and joy in my heart. That's just how much I want us to be wrong.Dale Ellisnoreply@blogger.com