tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post4613094475254024370..comments2024-03-29T05:41:35.119-07:00Comments on Graphic Firing Table: Sinners and the angry GodFDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-72109956108470455022013-03-08T10:23:51.373-07:002013-03-08T10:23:51.373-07:00The thing is, there's "stupid" as in...The thing is, there's "stupid" as in "can't walk and chew gum". And under that definition, no, Dick & Co. aren't "stupid".<br /><br />But then there's the definition of "stupid" as in "looks at a Claymore mine and believes it's full of yummy candy because they want to." THAT's the kind of stupid I believe these guys are.<br /><br />They live in a wingnut echo chamber, where everything they hear sounds like their own voices telling them what they want to hear. With Iraq, they we obsessed with their own vision and to hell with evidence to the contrary. That's stupid.<br /><br />So I wouldn't call Dick Cheney "smart". He's not; what he is is "shrewd". Shrewdness is the one-dimensional form of intelligence, the intelligence utterly focused on acquisition of what the person wants to the exclusion of everything else. That defines Cheney and his cronies; remember the Bushie that said that "we make reality"? That's those guys.<br /><br />But in the big-picture, geopolitical savvy sense, there's little difference between shrewd and bone-stupid.<br /><br />Custer was shrewd.FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-61447818197069764942013-03-08T05:57:01.244-07:002013-03-08T05:57:01.244-07:00"I don't buy the "they were stupid&q..."I don't buy the "they were stupid" argument. Cheney, for one, is an intelligent man."<br /><br />Agreed but he also has a very dark vision of how the world works. So dark that you or I would be in an insane asylum if we shared it. <br /><br />My theory is that Cheney drove the invasion primarily because the aftermath distracted everybody else and let him prepare the US government for his apocalyptic vision of the future.<br /><br />I completely disagree with his vision for the future and loath every aspect of the changes he put in place. We are a poorer, more divided, more petty nation as a result of those changes. And the consequences of the way that he did these things will echo throughout US history when the TSA is a sad old memory.Plutonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-15395397992484864602013-03-08T01:25:10.180-07:002013-03-08T01:25:10.180-07:00I don't buy the "they were stupid" a...I don't buy the "they were stupid" argument. Cheney, for one, is an intelligent man.Swanditchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15316455524375152972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-67121678109250888442013-03-07T16:22:54.671-07:002013-03-07T16:22:54.671-07:00Ael: Read that; good comment.
Again, ISTM that th...Ael: Read that; good comment.<br /><br />Again, ISTM that the real sin we're committing is that we are not punishing failure and rewarding success. Nations and organizations that do are the ones that succeed; we're well on our way to institutionalizing failure...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-29173156099139053842013-03-07T16:21:49.578-07:002013-03-07T16:21:49.578-07:00Syrbal: And because of Israel. And the PNAC. And...Syrbal: And because of Israel. And the PNAC. And Iran. And, frankly, because many of them were stupider than a goddamn bag of hammers.<br /><br />But my thought is that we are unlikely to be any sorrier than the Romans were when Varus got his <i>conge'</i> and the Empire lost the east bank of the Rhine. Rich and powerful powers can take a lot of damage and not feel it.<br /><br />But to me the problem here is that nobody had paid Varus' price. And without the penalty of failure there's no reason for future "leaders" not to repeat BushCo's venality. THAT is where I see the "being sorry" part, not the doing of the deed itself...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-45151817877692968002013-03-07T13:44:07.756-07:002013-03-07T13:44:07.756-07:00Interesting comment from Walt.
It goes deeper tha...Interesting <a href="http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/03/06/who_was_right_about_invading_iraq" rel="nofollow">comment</a> from Walt.<br /><br />It goes deeper than Bush/Cheney.Aelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788190394672505925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-85079481611888606992013-03-07T10:32:20.033-07:002013-03-07T10:32:20.033-07:00They did it so they and their buddies could sweep ...They did it so they and their buddies could sweep about half the Pentagon budget into their own coffers....and because they could. <br /><br />And yes, we aren't sorry; but since the long fall is still ongoing with no parachute in sight? We WILL be sorry, sooner or later.Syrbal/Labryshttp://www.herlanderwalking.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-10293534554871935102013-03-07T10:13:07.224-07:002013-03-07T10:13:07.224-07:00Ael: And I know a certain ex-Veep that I'd lov...Ael: And I know a certain ex-Veep that I'd love to have a clear running start to KICK in that taint, yabetcha.<br /><br />Swanditch: Y'think? The real fuckstory about this is that the words "Project for the New American Century" haven't become the worst insult an American can utter. Fucktards.FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-68156683972106814122013-03-07T00:19:30.033-07:002013-03-07T00:19:30.033-07:00"The Bushies fucking knew that but went and d..."The Bushies fucking knew that but went and did it anyway" raises the question "why did they do it?" They must have had another reason.Swanditchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15316455524375152972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-75903804564417733042013-03-06T23:04:10.250-07:002013-03-06T23:04:10.250-07:00The taint sure runs deep, don't it.The taint sure runs deep, don't it.Aelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788190394672505925noreply@blogger.com