tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post9014866427210797646..comments2024-03-28T12:29:39.157-07:00Comments on Graphic Firing Table: Tortured logicFDChiefhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-25989910423224969022014-12-21T13:00:41.028-07:002014-12-21T13:00:41.028-07:00yup
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/21/1352...yup<br /><br />http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/21/1352611/-We-are-no-better-than-our-enemies<br /><br />bbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-82397514315876286212014-12-21T12:06:02.816-07:002014-12-21T12:06:02.816-07:00Interesting. I'm sure you'll find the res...Interesting. I'm sure you'll find the rest a good read, fits well with my comment elsewhere about torturing the poor nitwit Oklahoma electorate, and in the comments section a varied selection of posts including active military, as well as pro-torture trolls.<br /><br />"Torture is among the lowest, vilest, most despicable of crimes. There is no excuse for it other than fear and desperation. As I said earlier; I would harm a captive if I believed that it would save people who depended on me. But then - I would I hope, if I was man enough - I would accept my own guilt and turn myself in with the evidence of my acts as the criminal I was and stand trial for my wrongs."<br /><br />>>More hidden still are the dark recesses of our own hearts. For the torturers and the terrorists are just human beings. They were not spawned on an alien planet. Whatever they know, they learned from other human beings. And though the dark recesses of our hearts may often yield nothing more than thoughts and feelings, we should remind ourselves that their true character is the stuff of which torture is made.<br /><br />I am even more interested in the cold assessment of those 10th century bishops who cooled St. Vladimir’s jets and offered their advice on statecraft. For theirs is the calm, pragmatic mind within us all. There is a chilly moral calculus that governs their advice. “The kingdom must go on, even if it requires a little torture from time to time. The gospel is good and the Baptism of the Rus is even better, so long as the Prince of the Rus doesn’t forget that he’s a prince and do his job.” I fear the cool utility of such reason far more than I do the uncontrolled passions within us.<<<br /><br />http://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2godforallthings/2014/12/12/going-hell-terrorists-torturers/<br /><br />bbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-86467590212478072122014-12-19T13:14:50.079-07:002014-12-19T13:14:50.079-07:00Yeah, Labrys; actually, Jim Wright at Stonekettle ...Yeah, Labrys; actually, Jim Wright at Stonekettle has a damn good column about this that points out that the only Republican to show any sort of sanity on the issue is the one who WAS tortured, McCain.<br /><br />Not that the torture seems to have made him any more sane on things like bombing other people...<br /><br />But, yeah...how fucked up is it that "torture works"...to unfuck the fucked up headspace and timing of what passes for "conservatives" in the US circa 2014...FDChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607785969510234092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31246093.post-67383700740630214742014-12-19T10:42:24.314-07:002014-12-19T10:42:24.314-07:00Perhaps if the torture denying asshats WERE litera...Perhaps if the torture denying asshats WERE literally fucked up/over with something like a football bat, they would 'get' it? <br /><br />I know, I know...that Inner Optimist of mine gets the reins from time to time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com